oh man, i've become one of them and posted on i love music on the feminism and p&j thread. i feel bad that the rain comes down on chuck, but since he posts all day long, and runs p&j, then he's in front line i suppose.

even though i almost wretched at the crossover bs of the foo fighters at the grammy's, i am really into the acoustic version of 'times like these' which i just downloaded in my newfound freedom to do so on the school computer.

IN OTHER NEWS: saw Kites again last night at the most amazingly movie set-like bar the safari lounge. they had a snake and there was a dude wearing a mesh hat that said 'metal' and it wasn't from urban, for sure. very very...providence. i love christopher and his music - the boy usually straps these weird homemade robo-effects to his body, then stands like he's about to take flight and screams into his amp with a homemade mouth mic (they must have a class somewhere in provo to make these). last night it was sine waves and screams, weirdly melodic and beautiful over the piercing feedback.

IN OTHER OTHER NEWS:

this is actualy 'other' news, in that i saw black dice, orthrelm and tyondai braxton place at school on thursday. braxton played guitar/effects plus sang reminding me so unsurprisingly of the animal collective but also adding unapologetically lush swathes of guitar sound, lovely sing-speak parts and harmonies in delay...some folks thought it a bit pretentious, but the sound coming out was pure bliss.

re: black dice. Ha ha ha ha. fractal art projections? drum synths? varese quotations? the impossible four gave a talk to the computer music kids earlier in the day abt their 'process' and guess what? hardcore never got mentioned. i haven't seen them in over a year and it is STILL amazing how insanely pretentious they could get in so short a time. it reminded me of that scene in 24hr party people where tony wilson et al are huddled in the back of the newly opened hacienda and a certain radio starts playing bongos, etc, and they're all like 'what the hell is this shite?' only i guess people think that black dice are a bunch of sonic astronauts or something.